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Post by Centurus on Feb 11, 2005 14:03:48 GMT -5
First of all, in case you haven't noticed my response in the other thread, I love this ship. Beautiful design.
I was thinking maybe you should put like a new type of phaser bank on the saucer. Instead of having twin mounted phaser turrets, perhaps triplet-mounted? She is an X-refit afterall. Just thought I'd make this suggestion. But just as she is she's incredible, truely incredible.
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Post by CaptainPierce on Feb 11, 2005 20:53:42 GMT -5
Nothing personal, Daihak, but I just have to say that I don't like anything I've seen with more than dual phaser "balls." LS did a ship that had quad-mounted balls, and it just didn't look right to me...
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Post by Centurus on Feb 11, 2005 22:47:58 GMT -5
Perfectly alright. I can see where you're coming from. There is always such a thing as too much. If not a triple mounted phaser turret, then perhaps something new and revolutionary for a new type of phaser bank, to give it an X-refit feeling.
But, this is, after all, WZ's model. Whatever he does with it, I'm sure it'll turn out beautifully.
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Post by Chris Johnson on Feb 12, 2005 2:02:40 GMT -5
Something new on types of phasers? How about Atolm/WZ's rail phaser idea then? It was done with the Warlock-class and Sorcerer-class advanced cruisers. I think because it already had been done, and that this X-cruiser WZ's making now seems to be more fitting for the F-CCX role, I figured not to make it as advanced. It's probably armed with the advanced phasers like the Warlock and Sorcerer-class starships, but doesn't implement the rail system thing. *shrug* Just thinking out loud. And I agree; It's WZ's work, he does what he wants. And even then, it's as if it's what I want too, because it's beautiful work. |
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Post by Wicked Zombie on Feb 12, 2005 7:12:05 GMT -5
Well, I had already tried the 'multi-phaser' idea with the refit Mars Battleship, which had four turrets per phaser group on the saucer. The idea behind that being that the 'bigger' the hull class, the more turrets it would have. Though I obviously haven't been consistent in this concept, this is how I had planned it: Dual turret - Majority of the ships (FF to CA type) Single Turret - Tugs and lightly armed vessels Triple Turret - DN's and possibly fire support ships Quad Turrets - Battleships and Stations The only obvious difference with the phaser system on the full fledged X-Ships (Sorcerer and Warlock) is the fact they are on a rail. The emitters themselves are unaltered (except that the mechanisms would have to be modified in order to move along the rail of course) so there isn't any clear distinction between the X Phasers and the normal ones. More than likely, the X-Weapons' differences are internal and only a few outer details would be noticeable. The heavy photons and new phaser technology would be more economical if they could be adapted to existing weapons emitters/launchers with a minimum of installation time. The impression I got from the X-refits (as opposed to the purebred X-Ships) was they were trying to install new, advanced, and possibly untested technology into an older ship that wasn't designed with those modifications in mind. There's probably not a lot of internal space that would be free for installing the rail phasers or any other major weapons emplacements. More to the point, I had tried the rail-phaser idea on the Potemkin, but having to keep room for the traditional registries didn't leave a lot of leeway with the rails. They also didn't seem to fit the design of the ship and looked out of place. I did, however, alter the phasers and made them similar to the 'square' ones on the Lethality. That should add enough distinction to set if apart from the standard Constitutions. |
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Post by donkarnage on Feb 13, 2005 17:57:13 GMT -5
i was thinking about it but insted on triple phaser why not somethink like a hole where a biger phaser is fire from, something like the phaser ring from tng fed ship but not an actual ring but somethink else that would mke the ship more x class.
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Post by Chris Johnson on Feb 14, 2005 0:38:41 GMT -5
I wouldn't expect any sudden changes and re-releases of that ship, Don. Unless WZ does exactly that, which I doubt. *shrug* It's a wonderful design nonetheless.
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Post by Centurus on Feb 14, 2005 15:29:51 GMT -5
You should see this baby when rendered with radiosity settings. *drools like he's on acid*
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Post by donkarnage on Feb 15, 2005 7:58:26 GMT -5
I wouldn't expect any sudden changes and re-releases of that ship, Don. Unless WZ does exactly that, which I doubt. *shrug* It's a wonderful design nonetheless. no i didn't say to re make it but for a next x-ship to include a few more change, maybe on the hull of the ship something that can be see, like new shuttlebay door or the hull less round, anyway its a good ship  |
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Post by Wicked Zombie on Feb 15, 2005 11:15:18 GMT -5
Well, I already do those types of things with the regular X-Ships. Making any major changes to the refit ships is somewhat implausible as the whole point of those is they are supposed to be 'alike but different'. They're supposed to be older ships that have new systems installed that wouldn't need them to have a lot of obvious changes.
Just like the Excelsiors and Mirandas don't have any major differences in DS9 even though they undoubtedly have new weapons and systems.
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Post by Starforce2 on Mar 3, 2005 8:14:06 GMT -5
How about just dressing it up using the pilot version bussard spears?
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